Kimball Exposed

(AGAIN)

(Wes Thomas you’re still selling dung as truth… )

 

    So for those actually interested in what went on behind the scenes with Glen Kimball and the supposed "Find of the Century"  in Southern Illinois….. his appearances on Coast to Coast and the Burrows Cave…… and was Robert Ghost Wolf Really involved in the exploration of this site…… Here it Tis

 

Chief William Crazy Bear on Kimball

12/4/01 5:20:13 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:  Chief William Crazy Bear (Bill Hoff)

To:            Hldgsacgrd@aol.com

 

On behalf of the Blue Mountain Metis Nation and community we support your

efforts to stop all of this grave robbing.  Please keep us informed on what’s

going on!  We have had disagreed with Robert Ghostwolf in the past but are

happy to see his stance on this issue.

 

Chief William Crazy Bear Hoff

   

Subject: James Gilliland on Kimball

To: whatnext_2000@yahoo.com  (Anna)

Date:    11/24/01 9:51:23 AM Mountain Standard Time

 

Hi Anna,

We had our interesting run ins with the circle this group seems to beinvolved with ourselves. It turns out that Glenn is sponsored by the Seattle Chat Club once  known as Art Bell Chat Club, of Seattle.

            For the Record Art publicly demanded they remove his name due to certain dubious  activities. This group has a long history of dishonesty, deception, twisting and censorship of the truth.

If you will look into their past  (Kimball and his group) it is riddled with military intelligence. I do not know Glenn personally and cannot testify one way or the other of his work however I can testify that the National UFO Reporting Center and the Seattle Chat club which sponsor Glenn have been caught red handed altering reports, censoring landings with multiple eyewitnesses and have done everything possible to discreditthe Yakima Nation.            

 Regards     James

 

From: Paul Kelly

To: Harry Hubbard

Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 12:21 PM

Subject: landowner?

From his (Kimball) response, he admitted that his dig is on the Olney property. Boy if anyone checks that place out, they will see that there is nothing going on and that Kimball is a fraud. you busted his bubble badly and Wayne’s too. There was not a single thing he could prove you wrong on. All you are publishing are facts like any good press, a brilliant expose. All he could respond with were childish insults. Let the world know the truth about all properties and landowners, not a thing he can do about it.

Why did he and Wayne have to go over your paper to find errors if there were any? Slam that shitty magazine and Kimball, the frauds are being exposed.

 

Kry Baby Kry............

Forward to whomever wishes to know the facts.

Date:            11/29/01 12:35:37 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

Reply-to:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

To:            gkimball@xmission.com (Glenn Kimball)

CC:            editor@ancientamerican.com (Wayne May), Punnet@mindspring.com (Ian Punnet

An Open Letter from Harry Hubbard to Glen Kimball and Company

 

If there was anything at all in my new and wonderful article that you can PROVE wrong, I will gladly write a retraction with full apology.  Wrong here means incorrect.  The issue here is not what is in your opinion "wrong," but rather incorrect. 

Since Wayne has never done anything in his life but LIE to me as well as others, I know he's pulling your leg again as he has always done.  So what can you PROVE incorrect?  NOTHING!  But in your moaning and groaning, you failed to make any point.  The only thing you know about my character is whatever May tells you.  Just ask him how many times he's been taken to different sites and fooled into believing he had something?  Wayne's character is stupidity and lunacy, and you're catching up.  You can't believe a word printed in AA nor can you believe what you see as pictures in most of his publications because they are computer enhance to give false information, just ask Wolak how Wayne distorts truth.  And there's another dandy....do you think I'm concerned about any of the 3 of you with such low IQ's?  Are you coming after me?  Should I go hide?

You're the one who called me names, not I you, yet you feel qualified to judge me as insolent?  Certainly as May is a liar about everything, shouldn't he lie about me to you?  And you seem so concerned about your landowner's name, yet just last night, you informed me that I had that wrong...so what's the fuss about Kimball.  Which way will you waffle today? This evening? Tomorrow?

You just say whatever feels good to you no matter what the facts are.  You, May and Wolak are nothing to me and May never had anything to do with us because we learned of his spin-lies years ago, and he knows that he will never be privy to any more of our information nor will he (or you) ever be allowed on the site where the tomb is.  May is a total crack pot and useless to anyone seriously doing research on ancient American sites.  He's a Mormon for Pete's sake. 

You are done with Wayne too.  He is furious.  

Why that's absolutely wonderful.  Maybe he'll feel remorse one day for all those lies he told about Paul and myself to others.  I'm happy he's furious...to bad he can't do anything about it.  I couldn't possibly be more pleased.

You have crossed the line for the last time. The point here is that you cut your own throat. I see no blood except what is coming from your mouth.

I didn't ask Wayne to be involved with me the other day, he's simply lied to you again.  This is the problem with perpetual liars, they never get facts straight because they can't remember what they heard or said and don't care to.  I WOULD NEVER HOP IN THE SACK WITH MAY FOR FEAR OF LOSING MY FEARLESS CREDIBILITY!  (Plus the fact I heard his perverted Nazi buddy Frank Colin has a crush on me).  You, however, have no credibility to be challenged in the first place.  If May had credibility, he wouldn't have needed you.

I would like to know...seriously...what darkness in the hearts of men compels them to act in such a dark and evil way? 

Hey, someone has to tell the truth, why shouldn't it be me.  Maybe dealing with people like you and May for so long had something to do with it.

Nobody would have exposed your landowners.  I most certainly would not.  It is not in my character.  I wouldn't even mention it on the internet in fear that someone might harm these innocent people.  Yet you brazenly broadcast ours. 

But dude, you said I got it wrong.....why would you ever be concerned about my landowners anyway....I'm at the wrong place remember???  DUH! 

Keep this up please I love it.  You self-admissions that I've nailed it make me feel encouraged and I need all the encouragement I can get.  THANK YOU!

I have heard about your reputation from my associates.

Your associates are habitual liars; do you think I care what, is said by them??  What are they saying now??  What's my reputation anyway?  Not putting up with BS?

I have a team of attorneys with the media companies that will be looking for those who have committed violations of the law.  Your media companies are going to be pissed off that you led them on a wild goose chase for nothing.  I figure anyone affiliated with you must be hurting badly anyway.  Your media companies are going to ask you why didn't you tell them about us in the first place so they wouldn't have had to waste their time and money on you.  Please, email this letter to them, I'm sure they'd receive it gladly for a real story that doesn't involve you.

If you stick your foot in it you can count on getting a knock at the door. 

I've been trying to get a knock of my door for years; can you change that for me?

You may have already violated the rights of our land owner. 

Again, gee, I had no idea, I was just guessing...........

Keep giving me evidence and someday we will meet in court.  I can promise you that.  …. OK, I will.  As soon as my film gets developed, I'm going to post pictures of your site on the net and let them make the rounds.  Don't you think the public will be interested in seeing them??  Kimball, You threatened me with court action years ago, remember?  Hello.

You will wish we had just slugged it out in the parking lot. 

Now you sound like Russell Burrows, he wanted to fist fight me in a parking lot too.

This is fear of being a public joke. If I were you, I'd feel the same way.

I am the guy who could do that to you and you wouldn't be able to get anyone large enough to respond back.  oooohhh is that another threat?  I wish it were backed with substance.  As for responding back, I've received over 100 emails today from people dying to know more.  Seems my article made the rounds on several group lists.  Your soap box is getting smaller and smaller.  As long as you email me back, I'll provide them with ultimate entertainment.

Go away and shut the hell up and maybe we will forget you. 

You sound so mean-spirited.  I thought you said you were a nice guy.

Keep giving us trouble and we will take whatever remedies the law allows and add a generous layer of bad press. 

Get the name right, that's HARRY HUBBARD!

Now what's your next stupid statement Kimball???

Let's dig a little deeper next time, you'll get the hang of this before long.

PS.  To show you how loony May really is...did he think I was going to sit by on the sidelines and watch you guys destroy our data and information without doing anything?  You guys must be fools.

 

Kry baby Kry................Now go take on the day..............

Regards HH

© Alexander Helios, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  MMI

 

 

Robert Ghost Wolf on The Kimball appearance on Ian Punnet’s Show, Coast to Coast Radio

 

Date:          11/25/01 2:03:11 PM Mountain Standard Time

Subject: IMPORTANT: IAN PUNNETT & GLENN KIMBALL - Part 1 of 2

FROM: ROBERT GHOST WOLF

To: whatnext_2000@yahoo.com

Dear Anna, 

    Here is my comment on Glenn Kimball’s little talk the other night and I hope and Pray that it goes far and wide to everyone who helped with the Miami Circle.

   This deliberate and unconscionable act of desecration of Sacred Land must be stopped…Glen Kimball is a bald face liar.   I have had the information about this find now for going on 4 years…And that Wayne May who is  “a Mormon Bishop” is part of this, knowing full-well the nature and character of the site... what an embarrassment to the Mormon Church this must be, or is going to be…. 

Regarding Kimball’s ludicrous statements and erroneous reciting of historical facts… Well, he’s young and had better do a little more research…don’t you think? Then again in fairness,...has he been lied to? and to what degree, or is he part of this hoax?

    As far as Ian Punnett's roll in this, I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt, and say he has been conned in a very old game surrounding a very old issue…and a very old story… It just a continued attempt to cover-up and create a manufactured “ Promoted on Radio” excuse to desecrate yet  another Native Site.... Ian Punnett  “Shame on you"…for promoting this…Are you that unknowledgeable?

Then put Dad back on his own show….leave this kind of thing to responsible adults.

RE:  Ian Punnett  and Glen Kimball

OR/  

“the desecration of yet another Native Site… …Shame on you, Ian Punnett..”

 

 I have received such a flood of E-mails regarding the issue of the

Illinois Caves and have been asked by all of you as to whether this recent

claim to discovery in Southern Illinois made by Glen Kimball the other

night on the Ian Punnet show aired on Coast to Coast Show has anything to

do with the quote; "Mystery Caves" that Dannion Brinkley and I talked

about on Art Bell's show almost two years ago. Burrows must be having

himself a real good laugh over this one.

 

 Please accept this communication, which is being posted to my list as my

response, and understand that I cannot answer all of you individually as I

might like to. Let me quickly say that the story that Dannion and I

presented on the radio was simply a  Could this be true story.. of human

interest, and we also in the presentation referred to several cave

locations from Tennessee, Kentucky, to Oklahoma to Illinois, to

California. We still have over1000 documentary photographs, and the

artifacts sitting at my house as verification to our research into the

matter, including Burrows Cave.

 

     Yes,  I am very aware of the location.   My associates and I went as

far as going into legal agreements with Ancient American Magazine, and the

owners of this location,  for the right to discovery, and publishing the

results of the research. When we found out that in fact the images of the

artifacts presented to us never came from the designated location, which

is the one that Glen Kimball discussed the other night on Ian Punnet's

talk show. I have since been in direct contact with the owners of the

"actual cave" site property and others who have “actually" done extensive

research in the site and it remains intact, and there are no “Armed Guards”

.

 

    After hearing about my work and my Spiritual Pursuit of discovering

the evidence of the tangible existence of Christ in America on the radio

and television shows where I have appeared, I was contacted by Wayne May.

Being familiar with the subject and having published articles about this

subject in his small publication out of Wisconsin, Wayne May and others

from the Ancient American Magazine Group presented me with a fist full of

evidence about the potential find which was good enough for my associates

to elect to do further investigations and surveys of the location, all of

which subsequently led us to elect not to go ahead with the dig at this

particular location. Being people of high public standing and public

profile they could not get involved in any further investigation of this

"questionable" site location, especially since it is a Native American

Site, and most likely a burial site.

 

   Is it real you ask? I believe the location is genuine; in fact, I would

go one step further and say that I know there are anthropological

evidences there that will be found.  BUT, it has nothing to do with the

story that was delivered to the public the other night... nothing

whatsoever.  I won't even approach the distortions and overlaying and

fudging of facts and twisting of stories that I heard on the radio.

Understand that I am very, very familiar with this matter and those truly

involved with it for many years behind the scenes.

 

   Does the location they are speaking of going into  have anything to do

with the Mystery Caves Dannion and I  spoke about?    (The story is still

available on my website) or even the notorious Burrows Cave?  … NO,

nothing whatsoever.   The only link is by association of individuals

within the den of thieves and hucksters involved....the tale of which

would make a radio show on its own.

 

   Thieves and hucksters...That's a pretty nasty accusation, you may

say…Yet it is exactly what Glen Kimball, Wayne May and the boys will be

doing if in fact they pursue this little adventure of theirs.   I am in

shock that Wayne May is even considering to pursue this escapade with the

information he has and has been well aware of for some time....never mind

the legal ramifications that he now places himself as well as the

landowners of the property into, which is another reason why we never

pursued the matter two years ago ourselves. 

 

   Archeology, or Anthropology are Sciences and it is not about Little

Boys digging holes in the ground and hoping to come up with buried

treasure, or playing pirates.   This is precisely why the elders of many

of the Indigenous Peoples who know about many locations and I won't come

out publicly while we are excavating and let the world know about the many

incredible sites that we know about and the information and artifacts that

they may contain. .

 

 

Part 2 - (7/28/01) Ghost Wolf & Illinois Caves & Kimball

Date:            11/25/01 2:03:11 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:            whatnext_2000@yahoo.com

Subject: PART 2 OF 2 - IAN PUNNETT & GLENN KIMBALL

 

 

 FROM:  ROBERT GHOST WOLF

 

  It's time for these little boys to grow up and get cured of the gold

fever that obviously has infected them and has been a recurring problem

since the gross debauchery and senseless looting of the burial chambers of

the Burrow's  Caves.   I have heard of ploys to increase Magazine sales

but this one goes the limit. To go up on the radio and deliberately lie to

the People, just to get your ya yas off…Ian Punnet… shame on you! Qualify your stories…You have been lied to…

 

   Two years ago, a little longer perhaps, my Associates and I refused to

do any excavation whatsoever for any reason on this  site when we found

out from more than one source, including the gentleman who first

introduced the site to Wayne May over three years ago that it is in fact a

Native American Site, and that none of the artifacts that Wayne  May

presented in photographic evidence ever came from the location. More than

likely the people involved will find something in the limestone caves below

the hills of Illinois, but it has nothing to do with the Halls of Records

that I first presented on the Coast to Coast show, which on my part was

based upon work that I had done with Speaking Wind, and is public

knowledge, and written about in his manuscripts.  What they will discover

is one of the treasure chambers of Chief Little Turtle, who was a fierce

and a well known Chief of the Miami People.

 

   There are others who know of this site and have left it alone for the

Very same reasons we elected to stay away from it, and I pray they come out in

a cry of Public outrage against this deplorable action being proposed by

irresponsible adults even when the facts were put before them and others

with more fabric and substance, and clout walked away….out of respect for

the sacred, and the indigenous people of this land. This is their site,

not much different then the Miami Circle. Not much at all. 

 

   In closing, this kind of behavior, these shenanigans are precisely why

we have had such a difficulty in gaining public support for the excavation

and exploration of ancient sites.  It is extremely harmful to those of us

out here doing the real research work  This kind of work takes endless and

painful research to qualify the authenticity as well the deciphering of

any remains. It is a sad thing when you sit and watch grown up men,

publicly feigning their commitment to integrity while you are hearing them

lie openly and completely, about something like this.

 

Especially when those involved purport themselves to be Spiritual leaders

of their communities and spokesmen for their faiths, and Christians…… very

sad indeed, when you wear the cloak of the master to hide your true

intent.

In the Light

Robert Ghost Wolf 


FYI here is the BIOGRAPHY OF LITTLE TURTLE:

 

           ME-SHE-KIN-O-QUAH or Chief Little Turtle was War Chief of the

Miami Nation. He led the confederation of Indians that defeated General

Arthur St. Clair, at Fort Recovery on November 3, 1791. His force inflicted

the worst defeat ever suffered by the U.S. Army at the hands of native

Americans.

 

    St. Clair's army consisted of 1300 soldiers. In the battle, 602 were

killed and about 300wounded. The Indian force consisted of approximately

1000 warriors. Only 66 Indians were killed in this battle! It was the

greatest defeat the Americans ever suffered at the hands of the Indians.

Even worse than the loss suffered at the Battle of Little Big Horn or

Custer's Last Stand. Custer only lost about 210 men compared to St.

Clair's loss of 602 killed! Me-she-kin-no-quah lived the village of

Ke-ki-ong-a'. Kekinonga means blackberry patch. This was the Miami capitol

(Ft. Wayne, IN).

 

           Little Turtle, upon realizing that the Holding of their Sacred

Ground in the coming endless waves of the increasing numbers of White

Settlers was a hopeless effort, created many such  repositories  to

preserve what culture and knowledge and wealth that might survive the

coming of the Conquerors.  This he did in hopes that his People might have

something to remember who they were in the future times..

==========================

    There are others who know of this site and I pray they come out  and join

us in support of stopping this deliberate debauchery of a Native Site, a

cry of public outrage against this deplorable action taken by

irresponsible adults even when the facts were clearly and eminently put

before them, and others with more fabric and substance walked away.....out

of respect for the sacred. 

 

    This story is not over, and I assure you, just like in Miami, the word

will be heard around the world.. People who want to support the

preservation of this site can contact the foundation here at:

 

Holding Sacred Ground

223 N. Guadalupe St. #178

Santa Fe, New Mexico 87501

or Email us at : Hldgsacgrd@aol.com

 

 

Date:            11/26/01 10:56:35 AM Mountain Standard Time

From:  (MacKinnon, Donna)

To:      Robert Ghost Wolf

 

Earths response to Mr. Kimball's kind:

     With any quest, one must first understand what is sacred.  Has anyone asked

the keeper of humanity, if she sees a man of pure respectful intent wishing

to blast holes in her bosom? And for what purpose? Ego, and self

gratification?

    Whatever secrets she holds will not be found by anyone that does not know

to spread the cornmeal on the ground. In thanks for the gifts that she

reveals.

    Mankind’s greed has raped our mother time and time again. The knowing of

truth is a matter of respect, and responsibility.  If truly you are chosen

to represent the ancient ones, then you better consider earth herself. She

will speak to those who are her children.  And non other.

     You may find this or that, but the underground cave you think you see could

just be your own grave.  The earth has been very tolerant and acceptant of

great abuse. Please remember what sustains all life.  If there are vital

pieces of a puzzle ,for human understanding ,earth herself would send them to

the surface, if it were requested in purity of the heart. If there is a

secret inside the earth that would save the world, it might simply be a stone

engraved with the words respect your mother, respect the gift of your own

life, and live with integrity.  If a person tunes into the earth herself, in

love and respect, and not in a heated rush.... the knowing will come, so who

needs to dig?  Take the shovel, and make it a mop and broom.

Get real boys......

 

  Momma's about ready to kick some butt! She has had enough !!   

It's not going to matter what you find, if its a matter of personal glory. The energies are

 changing.... so nobody better lie, and it's best no-one lie to themselves. If there is only 11 

years to get the priorities straight, start with asking earth what she may need of your

 energy?

 

  Take the energy wasted in creating turmoil, and figure out some ways to

soothe your earth mother in her time of labor...

  If you are a man and can't imagine what this might feel like.... Try

serious unrelieved gas pressure in the stomach...

 

 Thanks for listening......

 Earth....

 

Overview of Kimball's Untruth  (Public Opinion)

Date:            11/27/01 2:16:43 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:  (MacKinnon, Donna )

To:      Robert Ghost Wolf

 

Good day to you Ghost Wolf,

 I have read the letters written between Ian Punnett and Russell Burrows, then I went back and re-read your statement on the matter from earlier correspondence.   I see now how much a strong voice matters.  Especially when spoken to men with twisted ears.

    I suppose I may have picked up on some of the frustration.   So I went back and looked again at the Wolf Lodge Foundation’s website and re-read the Stargate files.  I do understand the necessity of pureness in representing such truths. 

These are beautiful works.  You rightfully protect what has been discovered over the years of your work .   May you always carry the sword of truth, shield of knowledge, and armor of wisdom.  Your doing a great job!

     When I hear things about discoveries, I measure the individuals involved, as to intent, integrity, and impeccability.  The Kimball’s of the world, are there to cloud and distract and keep us alert..  We've all been told enough untruths.......Like you said, you will have the eyes of the people upon them.

 And it is so........... In numbers greater than imagined.

A warm smile to you...

and Thank-you again....

Donna

 

Fw: Letter to Kimball from Paul Schaffranke Alexander Helios, Inc.

Date:            11/30/01 1:19:40 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

Reply-to:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

To: Punnet@mindspring.com (Ian Punnet),

CC:            editor@ancientamerican.com (Wayne May)

© Alexander Helios, Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  MMI

Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 1:29 AM

Subject: 2nd Letter to GK from Paul Schaffranke

 

Glenn,

I wish you would stop acting like and ostrich with its head stuck in the sand, you know very well who I am. You and May have repeatedly used my material from AA #16 the few times you said something intelligent. You upped the stakes by going on public radio with your lies. Did you not know that by doing that you become a target of public scrutiny? Had you kept your story only in the AA magazine, that would not have bothered us at all. But by going on the Art Bell show with its millions of listeners and touting these lies, we felt something had to be done.

 By going public the game gets dirty like politics. If you were so concerned about the landowner and his family, then maybe you and May should have foregone seeking glory and publicity when you had absolutely nothing to show for. If the landowner agreed to this, then he must also suffer the consequences of publicity. If not, then he may have a very good lawsuit against you and Wayne. Those slats you put on the Art Bell site do come from readings of Mr. Baughns property from the Wolak unit.

You cannot deny that because there are plenty of witnesses that can attest to this fact. Any bad repercussions that come from this will be entirely your fault. We have a free press in this country and exposes are part of the game. Your legal threats mean absolutely nothing. You lied to the public and that is all there is to it. I would live for the day to have you and Burrows in a courtroom. A lying plagiarist and a grave robber you did business with. I am sure a judge would love to hear of the $5000 your organization paid to that criminal. That would make you a knowing accomplice to a crime.

It was been the policy of AA for years now to work behind our backs and be at the forefront of this cave project by whatever dirty means necessary. All Wayne cares about is to get an exclusive on the story and seek publicity. Alexander Helios Inc. will not allow you to make this project look ridiculous any more now that you have gone public.

You ask what have we done to you? We have too much at stake regarding this, and you publicly touting lies hurts this project and could deter any true scholars from taking an interest in this cave. That we will not allow. Our organization as well as others working with us on this project will continue to publish the truth about your organizations activities and all your lies will be exposed to the public. All the listeners have a right to know the truth and should know the facts regarding the Illinois tomb.

 If you really had something to show for and had very good data regarding the cave and its artifacts, you would have earned the respect as a scholar by Harry and myself. Others have done that, and they end up working with us to get to the bottom of this. But you and May just seek glory with false data and lies, so now you will suffer the consequences.

 

GOD will get you for that in the end. Paul Schaffranke, Alexander Helios Inc.

 

 

Message for Kevin Ryden  editor, Olney Daily Mail

Date:            11/30/01 8:54:53 PM Mountain Standard Time

From:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

Reply-to:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

To:            editor@odm.shawneelink.com (Olney Daily Mail)

 

It was a pleasure meeting you over the phone this afternoon and as promised, I'm providing you with leads that will assist you in learning more information about the ancient Indian site in Richland County that is under destruction by a group of out of state treasure hunters who insist they have found golden statues in Section 34, German Township.

The man who first led these guys to the site in spring of 1999 is named Russell Burrows who used to live in Olney, but was run out of the state summer of 1997.  He currently resides in Greeley, Colorado.  The last phone number I have for him is 970-686-0785.  This man was presented with $5000 dollars to take the group to the site in question.  He is accused of removing $12,000,000 in gold bullion from the site.

Russell's brother-in-law who also received large sums of money for foul efforts still resides in Olney and as far as I know teaches at East Richland Community High School.  (name withheld) ( He)  could answer many questions pertaining to this matter and is always accommodating to press and publicity.  His number is listed in your local phone directory.

The fortune seekers begin with Wayne May who is owner and publisher of the Ancient American Magazine, an international publication that has been following the project now for several years.  His assistant is Frank Joseph Collins, former leader of the Skokie Seven as well as the Chicago Nazi Movement.  He's a convicted felon and Pederast.  Their number is 715-962-3299.  They are based out of Colfax, Wisconsin.  Their website is http://ancientamerican.com

Next is Ralph Wolak, director of FOX Productions based out of Hollywood/Beverly Hills. ( Although no one seems to know him there)  I have no current address or phone number for him or his close assistant, Bill White.

The group has a publicity agent named Glen Kimball who is based out of Salt Lake City Utah.  I lost his number and have been unable to relocate it, however, he is a frequent guest on the Art Bell Program and may perhaps be reachable through the friendly staff there.  His website is http://www.ancientmanuscripts.com 

    The owner of the property being destroyed is Leroy Baughan  (number withheld), and his son is Donald ( number withheld)  who I assume is dealing with the group or fortune seekers.

    The company who provides the group with excavating services is located in Olney and named Dolls, Dollis, Doyals, Dowels or something similar.

    The property in question is located 1/2 mile north of Hurricane Lane (1700N) accessed by the 1800E.  When you get to the top of the hill, there is a recently combined cornfield on the east side of the road.  After turning right, go a few yards and on your left will be a tire beaten path towards the north.  This path circles along the tree line and when you get to the second corner, you will see an opening in the woods leading down the ridge towards the north.  There are several red flags in the ground as well as large holes also. 

There is a man who is actively engaged with protecting such sites who used to be affiliated with the group, but dropped out when he realized they were up to no good.  He is not a turncoat, but rather good man who would be delighted to give you more information than I can.  His name is Robert Ghost Wolf based out of Santa Fe, New Mexico and his email address is Ghostwolf@wolflodge.org  I don't have a current phone number for him, but I'm sure he'd be willing to speak with you.

    This is a BIG story to say the least.  I'm sure if your fine paper prints an article about it, the Chicago papers, as well as AP, will pick up on it.  

Regards  PS

 Russell E. Burrows     Re: Glen Kimball

Date:            11/30/01 10:50:29 AM Mountain Standard Time

From:  (Russell E. Burrows)

To:      Robert Ghost Wolf

 About the supposed “find of the Century..”

Yeah, I know. Kimball called me last night and thinks he has me conned, like, I just fell off of a turnip truck. Kimball and Wayne couldn’t find a dime on a sidewalk, if the lights were on it.  Wayne May knows that this is a Native American site..

These Idiots are over 40 mules from where the caves are…  About the gold on their site that’s not pictures of Gold, those are models made for a show.  Wayne Knew that.   42.000 pieces! Well, that is news to me. No gold was ever removed from the cave. An exact mold was made of each piece and the exact weight was made of each piece. Then, each mold was used to make and exact copy of each piece.

Each piece of lead was then gold painted. These were to have be on display in the SONOFTOBAC museum in Vincennes.

Russell Burrows

 

Date:            12/2/01 4:40:41 PM Mountain Standard Time

From: (Paul Kelly)

To:      Robert Ghost Wolf

 

Thank you for all your support, good people like yourself are hard to find, especially in the business of preserving history. Because we seek to do what is right, many evildoers in this business think they can just walk over us and do as they wish. Push it too far and we become fierce warriors as Kimball’s crew has found out.

It is of utmost importance to protect our nations past. Too many pre-Columbian sites from Mediterranean peoples and native American sites have been plundered and destroyed to the point where no valuable data can be obtained and preserved. It is our duty to stop this or all will be lost. At least many tribes have had success in stopping the loot of sacred lands   Yes you are correct a lot of Sumer, Akkadian, Assyrian artifacts have surfaced in South America.

 

 Thank you again for all your help.  Paul

 

Date:            12/9/01 9:28:47 AM Mountain Standard Time

From:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

Reply-to:            illinoistombman@hotmail.com (Illinois Tomb Man)

To:      Robert Ghost Wolf

 

Well I listened to Russell on the Jeff Rense Show. 

 

Russell comes right out and tells Rense that Kimball is at the wrong spot and destroying an age-old Indian camp....  And then when Kimball comes on, he totally bypasses the issue by saying..."well, this is the spot he took Wayne May to and said it was the cave, now he's retracting that and I don't know why..."  Kimball don't get it, but May must certainly know by now that all RB does is lie.  Go figure......there are other Kimball programs on that radio list that I may check out later

 

.....HH

 

PS , I sent an email to Rense congratulating him on a fine interview with RB....

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    So there you have it folks, at least a partial reality check on what really was going on behind the scenes. There were many more letters and rocks being thrown back and forth…. Funny how the truth of things can change the way we feel about what the truth may actually be.  As far as you die hard patriots of the Wes Thomas Website…. I pray that something happens in your life to cause you to awaken to the “real” human inside yourself…and you no longer feel the need to feed off the kind of Internet Terrorism tactics and garbage reporting he perpetuates…

                                                                        In the Light   RGW

 

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